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because she sailed through the election with sky high ratings. and because now she can actually do some of the bigger stuff about obesity, the biggest public health challenge in this country, frankly the western world. she can now do what she wants. >> i'm going with claire mccaskill. not just because she won her race -- thank you todd akin -- but because she showed the face of what. i think claire mccaskill really came out winning. >> jonathan? >> i would say that the 47% were the winners of this election. because they told mitt romney and the republican party to stuff it. they got off their lazy, unprincipled, immoral behinds and got out there and voted for president obama. >> krystal? >> i got to go with the obvious one, president obama. not just because he won and won convincingly, his policies have been vindicated, health care has been upheld, his approval rating is rising. he's likely to now oversee a recovery. i mean, he really truly was the big winner this year. >> i would go with jonathan with the 47% or even more. the 99%. because i thi
because she sailed through the election with sky high ratings. and because now she can actually do some of the bigger stuff about obesity, the biggest public health challenge in this country, frankly the western world. she can now do what she wants. >> i'm going with claire mccaskill. not just because she won her race -- thank you todd akin -- but because she showed the face of what. i think claire mccaskill really came out winning. >> jonathan? >> i would say that the 47%...
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they had about six two weeks for the election. people are going to look for skeptically coming up. >> biggest winner. again, i'm going to go first because once again, i couldn't be more obvious. i just think the guy who wins the presidential election is really, you know, by every measure the biggest winner. and he did it with this crushing unemployment rate on his administration which he did everything he could possibly do to fix. but he didn't have it politically fixed by the time he went into re-election. he got re-elected with an unemployment number that everybody thought was impossible. so that credit goes to president obama. biggest winner of 2012 for me. karen finny. >> i'm going with the home team and say msnbc because we kicked that other network. >> don't even try to get the ipad. she gets the ipad. >> you previewed mine. i was going to say nate silver. because i think math was a huge winner this year. he looked at the numbers and polls properly. he understood the relative weight of gallup and better polls. the people who
they had about six two weeks for the election. people are going to look for skeptically coming up. >> biggest winner. again, i'm going to go first because once again, i couldn't be more obvious. i just think the guy who wins the presidential election is really, you know, by every measure the biggest winner. and he did it with this crushing unemployment rate on his administration which he did everything he could possibly do to fix. but he didn't have it politically fixed by the time he...
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hoyer mentioned, it's only been a matter of a couple of months since the election, eight weeks. in that period of time we've been pushed to even into a new year. it's long overdue for us to have this solution go forward and remove all doubt as to how we go -- what comes next for our country. so we expect, the american people deserve an up or down vote on what was pass in ted in senate. >> if there is an up or down vote, how many democratic votes will you be able to deliver? >> that's not a subject that i'm going to talk about now. >> members are considering the legislation. they just heard from the vice president. and we will find out which members -- >> you're saying you want bipartisanship from the other side, don't you have to say that you're willing to support had piece of legislation? >> i don't think there's any doubt that we'll have bipartisanship. she asked me for the number. i don't have a number. i can tell you we will have a bipartisan vote. >> thank you very much. >> when will you start whipping? >> we just finished hearing about house democrats about the physical cl
hoyer mentioned, it's only been a matter of a couple of months since the election, eight weeks. in that period of time we've been pushed to even into a new year. it's long overdue for us to have this solution go forward and remove all doubt as to how we go -- what comes next for our country. so we expect, the american people deserve an up or down vote on what was pass in ted in senate. >> if there is an up or down vote, how many democratic votes will you be able to deliver? >>...
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in some ways it defined what the election is all about. let's watch. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. all right? there are 4 % who are with him, who are dependent on him, and believe that they're victims, who belief the government has the responsibility to care for them. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never -- they should take first responsibility and care for their lives. >> agreed, john, agreed, ken, that this was the line that put him away? >> not only was this unbelievably divisive in a country that likes to think of itself as one country, but it was critically important that it was caught on surreptitious video. if this is something he had said in public, it would have been a big gaffe, but not as big as seeing it on that video where the voter is thinking ah-ha, now i'm seeing the real mitt romney, not the one in the packaging. >> and not just that, the setting, that he was speaking to wealthy donors who he could be candid with. it was like the true mitt romney talking
in some ways it defined what the election is all about. let's watch. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. all right? there are 4 % who are with him, who are dependent on him, and believe that they're victims, who belief the government has the responsibility to care for them. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never -- they should take first responsibility and care for their lives. >> agreed, john, agreed, ken, that this was...
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that was double what it had been when he was first elected six years earlier. during the 2006 midterm the u.s. was three years into the iraq war and facing heavy sectarian violence. a combination that put -- what are the lebs for president obama and the democrats? should they worry about a six-year itch? i say maybe not so much. here's why. because in 2010 the party lost 63 seats in the house, six seats in the senate. president obama famously called it a shellacking and it was. there's reason to think will he do better. he limits his losses like reagan did or even add seats in the house like clinton. president obama is almost guaranteed to do better in the house. very hard frankly to do worse than what he did in his first midterm. then democrats have this anecdote. basically hold on to the control of the senate. president can declare partial victory for that. that was the importance of democrats adding two senate seats. sitting at 55. republicans had to win big winning six senate seats is big, and that's what they have to do to get control in 2014. the gaggle w
that was double what it had been when he was first elected six years earlier. during the 2006 midterm the u.s. was three years into the iraq war and facing heavy sectarian violence. a combination that put -- what are the lebs for president obama and the democrats? should they worry about a six-year itch? i say maybe not so much. here's why. because in 2010 the party lost 63 seats in the house, six seats in the senate. president obama famously called it a shellacking and it was. there's reason...
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they knew they were in a box after the election. they got defeated convince leg in the election, chris, and that is why you saw john boehner come out the day after the election and try to jump out in front of this tidal wave that was coming his way on the fiscal cliff. he said, yes, he conceded. we'll raise revenues. we'll raise $800 billion over ten years in revenue, but we won't do it by raising tax rates. we'll do it by closing loopholes, taking away some deducks that are very popular incidentally. >> obviously the president has given ground. much on his left who thinks he just does not play hardball enough with these republicans. i think that they think once this is over, once the election sort of hangover is worn off in two months we could have a different climate and a different ground to fight on. >> thank you. >> okay. >> while the deal on the fiscal cliff got brought by partisan support, there are a lot of people on the left and the right unhappy. >> are you one of the folks that thinks the president hasn't played hardball
they knew they were in a box after the election. they got defeated convince leg in the election, chris, and that is why you saw john boehner come out the day after the election and try to jump out in front of this tidal wave that was coming his way on the fiscal cliff. he said, yes, he conceded. we'll raise revenues. we'll raise $800 billion over ten years in revenue, but we won't do it by raising tax rates. we'll do it by closing loopholes, taking away some deducks that are very popular...
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he'll be re-elected to speaker. but what ryan got to was this really interesting sort of tug and pull on -- within the republican conference right now. there is this effort to be as conservative as possible on every single possible vote. and even the guys who are going to vote for the compromise package and try to get a deal done when the vote comes up today, if they have opportunities to vote on amendments that make things more conservative, they're going to take that opportunity, which means that this thing, there is a real risk of this bill being kicked back into the senate and us having to go through this whole thing once again. so that is sort of tug and pull between the conservative faction here not only in the house of representatives but also in sort of the interest group community that spends so much money and pays so much attention to republican primaries is pulling a lot of members, even those who would work toward the compromise a little toward the right especially in this amendment process. >> right. an
he'll be re-elected to speaker. but what ryan got to was this really interesting sort of tug and pull on -- within the republican conference right now. there is this effort to be as conservative as possible on every single possible vote. and even the guys who are going to vote for the compromise package and try to get a deal done when the vote comes up today, if they have opportunities to vote on amendments that make things more conservative, they're going to take that opportunity, which means...
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. >> i think -- i could give you a long speech about the way that we elect partisans to office. most of america is in the center. they want us to work together. they want us to get along. unfortunately, due to the way we draw districts and the way primaries are held, we end up generally electing people from the more extreme of the party rather than people from the center that can work together and get along. that's always been a problem in congress. it's only gotten worse in recent years. and as far as productivity, it has to do with divided government. we're not getting along very well because of what i've described. and moving forward, that is the political dynamic. we're going to have the same situation in the new congress that we have in this congress. president obama is still president. the senate is controlled by democrats, the republicans control the house. they have to find a way to work together for the good of the country. >> well, we can only hope so. congressman jason altmire, thank you so much. good luck, sir. happy new year. >> thank you. happy new year. >>> the pa
. >> i think -- i could give you a long speech about the way that we elect partisans to office. most of america is in the center. they want us to work together. they want us to get along. unfortunately, due to the way we draw districts and the way primaries are held, we end up generally electing people from the more extreme of the party rather than people from the center that can work together and get along. that's always been a problem in congress. it's only gotten worse in recent years....
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he's been re-elected and lots of people see it as a lame duck presidency. but he's had more power as we've seen in budget negotiations. >> my worry, and i second everything said around the table. my worry, i think andrew is worried, you really have to get out of your shell and have courage to take this on. are we talking about bringing back the laws from 1994 or are we going further? are people willing to go further and frankly, i think we should go further. and health issues, is that really on the table. you mentioned video games. i agree with you. having said that, you can see the first amendment arguments will be there and lobbying on all these issues. my great fear is maybe we do go back to the laws of 1994. i'm not sure in this day and age when you add up to other issues, when it comes to video games and health issues we get there. one is there's a technological solution i keep hearing more and more about we should force gun makers to have electronic fingerprints on the guns to individuals, if we're going to have them out there at all, not talking abou
he's been re-elected and lots of people see it as a lame duck presidency. but he's had more power as we've seen in budget negotiations. >> my worry, and i second everything said around the table. my worry, i think andrew is worried, you really have to get out of your shell and have courage to take this on. are we talking about bringing back the laws from 1994 or are we going further? are people willing to go further and frankly, i think we should go further. and health issues, is that...
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and so, it goes on, election cycle after election cycle after election cycle. >> your show itself played somewhat of a role in covering the election so extensively. you faced one of the great media figures in the election, which was john sununu. i wonder if you could share but it was like to face the evil master. >> it was up there among the most contentious interviews i have ever done. it's right there with at john stossel, a truly train wreck interview, but fascinating for that effect. when he said, when i questioned his remarks, he said, "you are public radio and you are just there to kill the president's but -- the president's butt, and why should we pay any attention to your?" public radio is refreshing. here he is, here's the guy, unvarnished. it was very evident, but i never edit to win the argument. as a result, we never get complaints about the evidence we do. but he was who he was. so i thought it was really useful and even though i was left kind of like this all the way through it. >> he seems to have that effect on whoever he talks to. you bring up the notion of npr. i want t
and so, it goes on, election cycle after election cycle after election cycle. >> your show itself played somewhat of a role in covering the election so extensively. you faced one of the great media figures in the election, which was john sununu. i wonder if you could share but it was like to face the evil master. >> it was up there among the most contentious interviews i have ever done. it's right there with at john stossel, a truly train wreck interview, but fascinating for that...
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kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> gary tuchman is an amazing reporter. >> obviously, you are angry with him. to send him groundhog day style to some sort of town in maine where he drops a minnow in a bucket. am i getting this correctly? >> ryan! ryan, screw you. we improvise and we're real. >> i was once doing a live shot with paula zahn and i was in sri lanka and a dog humped my leg. i just started giggling. i was just like, finally, paula, i've got to tell you, there's a dog humping my leg. >> is that how you lost your cherry? >> wow. nice to see you. i almost wore this, psy. >> this is not awkward at all. >> no. >> who was that? >> that was mc hammer. >> no. really? >> yes. >> babe. i got you, babe. >> i got you, babe. >> i started sexting george stephanopoulos. >> really? >> yeah. >> i'm not the only one you sext? >> no. >> marisa says for a new year's present can anderson get a word in every once in a while? >> you're like ike turner. >> liz and dick was so fantastic. when she
kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> gary tuchman is an amazing reporter. >> obviously, you are angry with him. to send him groundhog day style to some sort of town in maine where he drops a minnow in a bucket. am i getting this correctly? >> ryan! ryan, screw you. we improvise and we're real. >> i was once doing a live shot with paula zahn and i was in sri lanka and...
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it was very clear after the election -- remember, the day after the election, john boehner appeared in the capitol and said i'm willing to deal with the president, i want to compromise. we will agree to raise revenues. but he didn't agree to raise tax rates, that is a nonstarter among republicans in the house of representatives. he was fryitrying to get out ah of this political tsunami coming his way. he knew because the president was talking about it during the entire campaign season that the president was going to stick to his commitment to raise rates on those making more than $250,000. the president, much to the dismay of many on the left, has given considerably on that point the numbers 450,000 in annual income respectively. but still that is not something house republicans will vote for, no matter what the income level is. and we saw that when the speaker's plan b set at $1 million crashed and burned. what they will do, they will tell members this is the best deal we'll get now, and essentially this is a jam job. the president has come out, we had the campaign style event, he eve
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when the election ended. the demand for $250,000, as of december, now we're going to end up almost double that. all the leverage he had with the election victory, and ended up doubling, i think was discouraging. what really bothered them was there was no debt ceiling, there is no debt ceiling fix in this agreement. and again, that is something that right after the election and well into december obama said he was going to insist on a permanent end to the debt ceiling. that was going to be part of this deal. he insisted on it. he backed off and indicated through the negotiations that he would be okay with a two-year patch. and now it is not even in there at all. it is very clear we'll have a showdown similar to this in about a month when we hit the debt expiration, except in a month, republicans will -- excuse me, democrats and obama will not have the kind of leverage that the automatic expiration that the bush tax cuts gave them. it is a discouragement that they can be em boldened, how they can move president
when the election ended. the demand for $250,000, as of december, now we're going to end up almost double that. all the leverage he had with the election victory, and ended up doubling, i think was discouraging. what really bothered them was there was no debt ceiling, there is no debt ceiling fix in this agreement. and again, that is something that right after the election and well into december obama said he was going to insist on a permanent end to the debt ceiling. that was going to be part...
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anybody worried about losing in a november election in the mid terms? they're actually more likely to support this bill. but there aren't many of those guys and gals left. >> all right. chuck todd, stay with us if you can. let's go to nbc's john harwood who has been covering the story for a very long time for us. bring your view, john, if you will, of this deal as we understand it. >> milissa, i think the deal is going to pass the senate. i think speaker boehner will allow to it come to a vote in the house. i think it will pass the house and go to the president for his signature. i just spoke to one participant in the negotiations who said we hate this was a democrat saying we hate this. but i still i think it's better than nothing. and that suggests you hit the sweet spot. if you have the president's party hating it, conservatives in the republican party hating it, but thinking it's better than the alternative, that's how you bridge a gap between two parties that are very far apart. democrats ultimately gave in on the issue of the estate tax, which was
anybody worried about losing in a november election in the mid terms? they're actually more likely to support this bill. but there aren't many of those guys and gals left. >> all right. chuck todd, stay with us if you can. let's go to nbc's john harwood who has been covering the story for a very long time for us. bring your view, john, if you will, of this deal as we understand it. >> milissa, i think the deal is going to pass the senate. i think speaker boehner will allow to it...
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and that elections assistance commission would go a long way. would be a clearing house for some of the best practices in this nation to continue to drive the polls, that voting should be for everybody, not a select few. and we really need to make sure that the federal government uses the tools that have in their tool box and not idly sit by and let things happen in the state and across the country. >> in your state of ohio, republicans unfairly targeted minority and low income areas with voter suppression tactics that is well documented. >> yes. >> but if this law were to pass, the line act that senator boxer has put in place, would this really clear up the problems you saw in 2012? >> i think somewhat, ed, and i commend senator barbara boxer for standing up for all voters in this country. but ultimately, voters hold the key. and voters have got to continue to vote for policymakers and executives who respect the power of the vote, and not those who try to suppress it. so even though the feds need to do their job, senator boxer, i give a big sho
and that elections assistance commission would go a long way. would be a clearing house for some of the best practices in this nation to continue to drive the polls, that voting should be for everybody, not a select few. and we really need to make sure that the federal government uses the tools that have in their tool box and not idly sit by and let things happen in the state and across the country. >> in your state of ohio, republicans unfairly targeted minority and low income areas with...
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in some ways it defined what the election is all about. let's watch. there. >> are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. all right there are 47% with him who believe that they're victims, who belief the government has the responsibility to care for them. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never -- they should take first responsibility and care for their lives. >> agreed, john, agreed, ken, that this was the line that put him away? >> not only was this unbelievably devicive in a country that likes to think of itself as one country, but it was critically important that it was caught on surruptious video. if this is something he had said in public, it would have been a big gaffe, but not as big as seeing it on that video where the voter is thinking ah-ha, now i'm seeing the real mitt romney, not one in the imagining. >> and not just that, the setting, that he was speaking to wealthy donors who he could be candid with. it was like the true mitt romney talking to his people in this setting. just so illustrative of
in some ways it defined what the election is all about. let's watch. there. >> are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. all right there are 47% with him who believe that they're victims, who belief the government has the responsibility to care for them. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never -- they should take first responsibility and care for their lives. >> agreed, john, agreed, ken, that this was the line that put him away? >>...
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had they not done this, i think it would have been a much closer election. but people took it personal and i think it really became a tipping point in the election. >> yeah, nothing makes someone want to vote than saying you can't vote. then you will do whatever it takes. >> and to take something from people that was earned and gained with such sacrifice. >>> now it's time for a lightning round. quick answers, please. you hear me, richard? quick answers. [ laughter ] >> the spot light award. this revvie goes to the moment that defined the 2012 campaign, the moment. quick, jonathan? >> it has to be 47%, the 47% video. >> health care law upheld. >> richard? >> hurricane sandy. >> hurricane sandy? all right. >> i'll have to go 47 pnt. that was the moment. >> no questions, 47%. so that's the one that's got, so far, the most consensus. everyone else, we disagree. >> bring the music on. >> we have a lot more revvie awards to come. stick around, we'll be right back. >> the revvies will return with paul ryan, hillary clinton and the best and worst political ideas of
had they not done this, i think it would have been a much closer election. but people took it personal and i think it really became a tipping point in the election. >> yeah, nothing makes someone want to vote than saying you can't vote. then you will do whatever it takes. >> and to take something from people that was earned and gained with such sacrifice. >>> now it's time for a lightning round. quick answers, please. you hear me, richard? quick answers. [ laughter ]...
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we had an election a few months ago, as you well know, chris. you covered it so much on top of the ball, and a lot of folks thought, okay, that election was going to answer a lot of questions. the president won, he won by 4 million votes. that is sort of the idea where the country is moving. when we do stories, we do those men on the street, and everyone sort of post-election has had this idea of it's time for shared sacrifice. we understand there's going to be some tough decisions made. we're going to have to give. that message has not resonated too much with house republicans specifically here in washington, d.c. they're negotiating very hard until the end because that has been their tactic in every single one of these fights with president obama. from talking to republicans, they don't think that president obama is a good negotiator. one of them told me earlier he couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. that's why biden is here on capitol hill. so with that mindset, they're moving forward in these talks and they're more than happy to h
we had an election a few months ago, as you well know, chris. you covered it so much on top of the ball, and a lot of folks thought, okay, that election was going to answer a lot of questions. the president won, he won by 4 million votes. that is sort of the idea where the country is moving. when we do stories, we do those men on the street, and everyone sort of post-election has had this idea of it's time for shared sacrifice. we understand there's going to be some tough decisions made. we're...
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you're re-elected. congratulations. you have a job. now work and do it. >> fiscally irresponsible decision trying to please everyone and you please no one at all. >> they've got to work together. >> they appear to be very self-centered. >> joining me now retired admiral and former democratic congressman joe sestak of pennsylvania and msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney senior adviser robert trainum. kelly o'donnell has just reported some of the latest information. we heard there was progress overnight and we understand vice president biden and republican leader mitch mcconnell exchanged phone calls until about midnight and their aides then continued to work and we've been reporting the various areas of progress including the fact that there seems to be agreement on a new income threshold of $450,000 a year. we know yesterday that the republicans backed off on social security but sequestration is the sticking point. of course democrats say they are arguing that the new revenue generated by tax increases, especially if reduced from
you're re-elected. congratulations. you have a job. now work and do it. >> fiscally irresponsible decision trying to please everyone and you please no one at all. >> they've got to work together. >> they appear to be very self-centered. >> joining me now retired admiral and former democratic congressman joe sestak of pennsylvania and msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney senior adviser robert trainum. kelly o'donnell has just reported some of the latest information....
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americans elected president obama to lead, not to cast blame. the president's comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. the president, of course, saying he has offered concessions. he's offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts. what am i missing here? because it seems like he's up against a wall. >> yeah, some of those cuts, though, are kind of already were on the table. there were cuts, for example, in defense spending, you know, because we're not at war anymore. we're not necessarily -- you know, those trillion dollars are a little bit suspect for a lot of republicans. and i think ultimately the president is sitting there very, i think, disingenuously, you know, touting what he was able to do when he left on the table, quite frankly, mika, the one thing that could have been the real solution, the real framework to avoid all this, which was simpson-bowles. i'd still get back to that reality that this president fa
americans elected president obama to lead, not to cast blame. the president's comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. the president, of course, saying he has offered concessions. he's offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts. what am i missing here? because it seems like he's up against a wall. >> yeah, some of those cuts, though, are kind of already were...
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a new the die found the long lines in central florida on election day discouraged as many as 49,000 people from voting. on "meet the press" nbc's tom brokaw says there's a simple explanation for what's wrong with our elections and the lawmakers sent to washington. >> the system is rigged. 75% of the congressmen come from gerrymandered districts which which they are bullet proof. >> as 2012 comes to an end the 112th congress will go down in history as the most unproductive in 60 years. 219 bills have been passed. that's compared to 383 bills passed by the last congress. 460 by the one before that. >>> despite that terrible record president obama has signed an executive order giving returning members of congress up to a 1% raise ending a pay freeze going back to 2009. >>> the nature did put in some extra working hours last night but there was some grumbling. one senator said quote this is definitely not a kumbaya moment. and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. for your new year's eve weather we turn to bill karins. happy new year's eve morning. >> it's a big day, right? >> it is
a new the die found the long lines in central florida on election day discouraged as many as 49,000 people from voting. on "meet the press" nbc's tom brokaw says there's a simple explanation for what's wrong with our elections and the lawmakers sent to washington. >> the system is rigged. 75% of the congressmen come from gerrymandered districts which which they are bullet proof. >> as 2012 comes to an end the 112th congress will go down in history as the most unproductive...
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on "meet the press" tom brokaw says there's a simple explanation for what's wrong with our election and lawmakers sent to washington. >> the system is rigged. 75% of the congressmen come from gerry mandered districts in which they are bullet proof. >> as 2012 comes to an end. the 112th congress will go down in history as the most unproductive in 60 years, only 219 bills have been passed and has become law compared to 380 bills passed by the last congress, 460 by the one before that. >>> despite that terrible record president obama has signed an executive order giving returning members of congress a 1% raise. >>> and the senate did put in some extra work hours last night but there was some glumbling. one senator said quote this is definitely not a kunbaya moment. >>> now for a look at your new year's eve weather let's turn to bill karins. happy new year's eve morning. >> big day, right? >> it is. going to be a cold one. >> maybe not for i but for everyone it's a cold. a little bit of snow to talk about. no big blockbuster snowstorms. the cold air is the story. easily be the coldest week
on "meet the press" tom brokaw says there's a simple explanation for what's wrong with our election and lawmakers sent to washington. >> the system is rigged. 75% of the congressmen come from gerry mandered districts in which they are bullet proof. >> as 2012 comes to an end. the 112th congress will go down in history as the most unproductive in 60 years, only 219 bills have been passed and has become law compared to 380 bills passed by the last congress, 460 by the one...
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the 1988 election marked the only time a sitting, two-term president saw any kind of games. in addition, two-term presidents have one really bad midterm and not so bad. for instance, eisenhower did much better in his midterm than his second. truman's party kwuz much worse in '46 than it was in '50. republicans lost seven senate seats in -- lost a bunch of senate seats in '86 and the control but did better in the house. let's take a look at our next one. the two most recent examples of midterm. bill clinton lost 54 house seats and 8 senate seats. both parties said that the 98 result was due in part, maybe in hole, to the republican's backlash who seemed focused on the lew irksz nsky scandal. two republican midterms there. republicans gained ground in 2002, a 9/11 halo effect, if you will, before losing big in 2006. so what's behind the truth of this theory of the six-year itch? it seems logical that the pendulum would swing to both parties. but when you look at the case, there are extenuating circumstances. by the time his second midterm rolled around, harry truman was four m
the 1988 election marked the only time a sitting, two-term president saw any kind of games. in addition, two-term presidents have one really bad midterm and not so bad. for instance, eisenhower did much better in his midterm than his second. truman's party kwuz much worse in '46 than it was in '50. republicans lost seven senate seats in -- lost a bunch of senate seats in '86 and the control but did better in the house. let's take a look at our next one. the two most recent examples of midterm....
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after the election, and barack obama won re-election pretty handily, as it turned out, after the republicans threw everything they had at him, after mcconnell said his top priority, as barney frank mentioned a few moments ago was to make barack obama a one-term president, wasn't to fix the economy, it was to make barack obama a one-term president, obama took all of that, he won. there was a sense in washington, among some people, i guess, i would call them sort of naive people, that the republicans might have learned something from that and might come to the table. but i'm afraid that, chris, they've learned precisely the opposite, that they're just going to double down in their opposition and that's what we're seeing so far with the failure to have a resolution to these fiscal cliff negotiations. john boehner -- >> but mitch mcconnell did reach ute to the president. do you see that as posturing, we're doing our best, or do you think the republicans are serious and feeling pressure about making a deal? >> i don't think they feel that much pressure. i think they feel -- they feel a little bit
after the election, and barack obama won re-election pretty handily, as it turned out, after the republicans threw everything they had at him, after mcconnell said his top priority, as barney frank mentioned a few moments ago was to make barack obama a one-term president, wasn't to fix the economy, it was to make barack obama a one-term president, obama took all of that, he won. there was a sense in washington, among some people, i guess, i would call them sort of naive people, that the...
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he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about going over the fiscal cliff at this point? >> i don't actually buy this argument that people are happy going over the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they'r
he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good...
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>> it sounds like the president does, after all, he's the won the election. the polls show that the american people for the most part favor some sort of tax increase for the wealthy, but quite frankly the losers are just about everybody. certainly those who are in the position to need unemployment insurance, federal workers, those who are beholden to the government, that type of thing, and i think that also the political system in the united states is a loser. i really do believe that the polls bear this out, that people are really getting disgusted with all the players in this game, and they want to see it stopped. >> let bring in paul cain, congressional correspondent for the "washington post." you know, to what bob was just saying americans are shaking their heads at all of this, just watching this blame game and wondering where are we going with this. >> you know, melissa, the other night mark begich, freshman senator from alaska when he was walking out friday night, he called it political schizophrenia. he said it's just -- he's getting whiplash back and
>> it sounds like the president does, after all, he's the won the election. the polls show that the american people for the most part favor some sort of tax increase for the wealthy, but quite frankly the losers are just about everybody. certainly those who are in the position to need unemployment insurance, federal workers, those who are beholden to the government, that type of thing, and i think that also the political system in the united states is a loser. i really do believe that the...
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you don't have to worry about re-electi re-election. many members of congress are doing what they believe their home districts want them to do. this is about self-preservation and getting reelected. are you in any different position? do you think they can look at this differently? >> i think you are in a lame duck session. it's a different dynamic. you have members that have lost and retired. yes, it's different in a lame duck than it would be before an election. this would be catastrophic for the country if we allowed it to happen. we have to have a deal in 36 hours. the people are committed regardless to doing the right thing for the country. it's what's most important. >> this is the way you wanted to go out with this mess? >> well, we could have handled it better. we are in this position because we mishandled it in the first place. we are where we are. i'm hopeful we will be able to do that in the next day and a half. >> good luck up there. we'll check in plenty throughout the day. good luck. >> happy new year. >> 20 minutes past th
you don't have to worry about re-electi re-election. many members of congress are doing what they believe their home districts want them to do. this is about self-preservation and getting reelected. are you in any different position? do you think they can look at this differently? >> i think you are in a lame duck session. it's a different dynamic. you have members that have lost and retired. yes, it's different in a lame duck than it would be before an election. this would be...
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. >> we were right after the presidential election, everybody was bored. and this happened during newtown or during the presidential campaign. it would not have been as big a deal. this was a timing issue. >> nothing else going on, remember how, you know, the stakeouts in front of jill kelley's house. >> how do they send 30,000 to 40,000 e-mails. just this nonstop, salacious story. >> yes, but it was great television. sex and espionage and spies. i mean, this was the kardashian of national security. >> that's not a good thing, pal. >> wrong metric. that was the kardashian impression in the worst way. it was to try to get eyeballs and sensationalize the story and good tv and good entertainment is not the same as good information. this was not a high-point political coverage. this was inhead of the cia and the fallout, the next man the supreme ally and this is a big story. >> let's have a little perspective. nobody is saying because david petraeus had to resign as head of the cia and general john allen was dragged into it and interesting story on every human
. >> we were right after the presidential election, everybody was bored. and this happened during newtown or during the presidential campaign. it would not have been as big a deal. this was a timing issue. >> nothing else going on, remember how, you know, the stakeouts in front of jill kelley's house. >> how do they send 30,000 to 40,000 e-mails. just this nonstop, salacious story. >> yes, but it was great television. sex and espionage and spies. i mean, this was the...
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we're just days days before this election. [laughter] all this time you spend in the newsroom, where d.c. this headed in the next few days? >> in a, i guess the good news is i don't know anything more than any of you do. what i would say is what i've been saying, my wife would say this is true for the last six month. i think it's a 50/50 country. it's been a mistake for anybody to protect to quickly it will go one way or the other. it's a 50/50 country. almost apart from other candidates are. there is an even division. and then i will also, i think it may well come down to ohio. it's a critical state, and i believe this is true. i think there are more auto workers living in ohio than living in michigan at this point. it will be very interesting to see how that plays out. i will say this. i think however it comes out, i think these debates have been wonderful for the country. certainly for television but for the country. a week or two before the first debate it was just all over, why do we pay attention? the level of energy and
we're just days days before this election. [laughter] all this time you spend in the newsroom, where d.c. this headed in the next few days? >> in a, i guess the good news is i don't know anything more than any of you do. what i would say is what i've been saying, my wife would say this is true for the last six month. i think it's a 50/50 country. it's been a mistake for anybody to protect to quickly it will go one way or the other. it's a 50/50 country. almost apart from other candidates...
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i mean, we lost the election. elections have consequences. we're not going to get everything we want. but we need to focus on the real issue of our debt and deficit. instead of focusing on the power of who's in charge in the republican party and the democratic party and who's winning of the two parties? >> let me ask you, you're focusing on the deficit here. if we do nothing with if there's no deal in the next few days, and we do nothing in the first few weeks and there's no patch in the first few weeks of the new year the deficit problem basically solves itself, doesn't it? >> well, i mean, we're not -- we have over $1 trillion deficit every year. over a trillion dollars. it's not sustainable. >> but doesn't -- i'm saying, if we -- all of these issues, with all the bush tax cuts going away, the sequester, payroll tax expiring, the estate tax, if we do all the stuff that the fiscal cliff or the fiscal curb, whatever you call it does, the deficit problem is solved? >> no. i have no idea what the specific number is but i know we're over $16 tri
i mean, we lost the election. elections have consequences. we're not going to get everything we want. but we need to focus on the real issue of our debt and deficit. instead of focusing on the power of who's in charge in the republican party and the democratic party and who's winning of the two parties? >> let me ask you, you're focusing on the deficit here. if we do nothing with if there's no deal in the next few days, and we do nothing in the first few weeks and there's no patch in the...
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a tough election year. >> it is funny this happens to us at the end of the year. we think this, we do nothing but politics and world events and go did we have any fun on look back on it with the wonderful producers and we are like did we get anything serious done throughout the last year. >> here are some of our favorite moments from 2012. hard to believe. take a look. ♪ good morning everybody. great to see you. >> happy new year. >> this coffee has been here since last year. >> the vests have gone viral. >> this isn't going to go well. >> i can't wait for reichmuth and the bear. >> we'll be back in two and two. >> i'm no marilyn monroe but happy birthday, mr. president. >> vanilla ice wannabe. >> let's do it. >> will it ever stop. ♪ i don't know ♪ if there was a problem ♪ yo i'll solve it ♪ check owl the hook while the deejay revolves it ♪ >> now, you can walk in my shoes. ♪ >> we don't object if you are dancing. >> it is the fox and friends orchestra. >> wait a minute! >> don't go down the stairs. those are stairs! >> clayton, do not go down the st
a tough election year. >> it is funny this happens to us at the end of the year. we think this, we do nothing but politics and world events and go did we have any fun on look back on it with the wonderful producers and we are like did we get anything serious done throughout the last year. >> here are some of our favorite moments from 2012. hard to believe. take a look. ♪ good morning everybody. great to see you. >> happy new year. >> this coffee has been here since...
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i won, these are the consequences of an election. so, he has not been operating in a deal-making mode, even though he stands before the cameras occasionally and says it. i think he has a better chance to work a deal through the stnt and back it in -- through the senate and back it in through the house. >> where have the republicans bent? they have not bent at all, the president has bent, he has reduced the amount of revenue he is asking for. he he want to cut taxes for small businesses and individuals. he has bent on medicare. so that is not accurate to describe it that way. the president has been there all along. >> we will have to leave it there. thank you so much. i enjoyed you guys with us. we usually like to have a few ladies with us, but that is okay. >> happy new year. >> to you as well. join us tomorrow, i will host the live coverage of a possible plan, a possible plan, to prevent the squauld fiscal cliff, i will have several lawmakers to talk about what is going on. and don't forget, a interview with the president on "meet t
i won, these are the consequences of an election. so, he has not been operating in a deal-making mode, even though he stands before the cameras occasionally and says it. i think he has a better chance to work a deal through the stnt and back it in -- through the senate and back it in through the house. >> where have the republicans bent? they have not bent at all, the president has bent, he has reduced the amount of revenue he is asking for. he he want to cut taxes for small businesses...
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>> listen, anybody who is a member of congress was elected and sent there. that means that they reflect the voters and they have to work together to come up with a compromise. when i think the platform that paul has it's an amazing platform in "the new york times" where he could be doing is laying out all sorts of proposals for how to fix the short-term problems of jobs and the economy which he focuses on and the long-term problems of the debt and he takes shot at people like me because i'm a political independent. instead of saying -- let me just finish. instead of pointing fingers and instead of pointing fingers, i really think we need to have republicans and democrats work together and compromise on this. we all agree with that, maya mcginnis. i think it is worth noting that the gop has 115 times, 115 times the republican minority has held up a bill's passage or they've threatened to filibuster. 115 times, that is unprecedented, is it not? >> so you're talking about filibusters. you're talking about the way that washington is actually not able to get anyt
>> listen, anybody who is a member of congress was elected and sent there. that means that they reflect the voters and they have to work together to come up with a compromise. when i think the platform that paul has it's an amazing platform in "the new york times" where he could be doing is laying out all sorts of proposals for how to fix the short-term problems of jobs and the economy which he focuses on and the long-term problems of the debt and he takes shot at people like me...
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have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry reid got this through the senate, i.e., that he got all democrats onboard for the 250 or below and he was able to pick up retiring republicans and maybe he gets olympia snowe from maine, scott brown and folks like that and get to the 60 threshold and break the filibuster and if he was able to do that and it went to the house floor, there's no doubt it would pass and probably get enough republicans at the end of the day. the question is a, would he be able to break the filibuster in the senate, we don't know if that would happen. would boehner put it on the house floor and he said from day one, any plan he would like to see the majority and the rep
have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry reid got this through the senate,...
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he has to get re-elect on january 3rd. there's little he can do between now and then. >> that shouldn't be a consideration considering what's happening to the rest of the country. set us inhere. let's listen with susan to what some of the gop is saying right now. >> everything is just about scoring political points. and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group that is below us. >> so because we have lacked the courage to face up, to deal with these issues, we here in washington are going to hurt the american economy. we're going to hurt americans at every level. >> that's pretty rough there, susan. used susan. used car salesmen, she used that reference. people should be angry and why should they not? they should be angry. they should also be angry at their elected officials. democrats and republicans because the fact is that no matter what happens right now, no one has put a long-term goal on the table.
he has to get re-elect on january 3rd. there's little he can do between now and then. >> that shouldn't be a consideration considering what's happening to the rest of the country. set us inhere. let's listen with susan to what some of the gop is saying right now. >> everything is just about scoring political points. and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group...
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. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and what's going to happen now between today and tomorrow is, if you've got mitch mcconnell and harry reid sitting down, never a good thing and apparently, trying to come up with income tax thresholds, and if they don't come up with something, again, that wedge gets driven further and obama can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basi
. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and...
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i'm looking at grover norquist who says we had an election. boehner was elected speaker. now lame duck obama should get over it. first of all, boehner wasn't elected peeker. and he's also implying that the president doesn't have a mandate. it's the president and the democrats who won the election. the president won by 5 million votes. democrats expanded their majority in the senate and the house democrats earned 1.4 34i8on votes than the gop candidates. boehner is e let the record reflect elected by the republican caucus. this is what makes me not know what they'll do. >> when i said in the top of the show, who's pulling thestri ini are the big donors. these people don't care if we go over the fiscal deadline. that's why they're so cavalier about it. they are trying to redistribute this country's wealth along the lines of more fuel for the wealthy. i think we've got to resist this because what they're trying to do is really make it so that the average american worker is cost competitive with the average chinese worker. we can't have that. we've got to have a society that
i'm looking at grover norquist who says we had an election. boehner was elected speaker. now lame duck obama should get over it. first of all, boehner wasn't elected peeker. and he's also implying that the president doesn't have a mandate. it's the president and the democrats who won the election. the president won by 5 million votes. democrats expanded their majority in the senate and the house democrats earned 1.4 34i8on votes than the gop candidates. boehner is e let the record reflect...
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outcome of the 2012 election and the myriad of voter suppression schemes years in the making, voters refused to be ignored, dismissed, or disenfranchised. voters proved that individual americans still have the power when we choose to use it. the more accurate reflection of the america in the 21st century, the key question becomes in 2013 whether or not this coalition will find ways to work together to lefage that electoral power for policies on immigration reform, gun control, equal rights, economic inequality and continuing to expand the american story. so what matters most is what happens next because it's up to us to make sure that the power we loan to politicians is used for the greatest good, and it's up to us to make them earn our votes and hold them accountable when they falter. thanks to the bashir team. the "hardball" team picks things up right now. >>> deal or no deal. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm richard wolffe in for chris matthews. big numbers get thrown around at times like this in washington. as the legendary everett dirksen once said, a billion her
outcome of the 2012 election and the myriad of voter suppression schemes years in the making, voters refused to be ignored, dismissed, or disenfranchised. voters proved that individual americans still have the power when we choose to use it. the more accurate reflection of the america in the 21st century, the key question becomes in 2013 whether or not this coalition will find ways to work together to lefage that electoral power for policies on immigration reform, gun control, equal rights,...
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>> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims.
>> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's...
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in the senate, i heard senator mcconnell that the november election -- that isn't true. the president was out there clearly saying there should be a continuation of the middle-class tax cuts, but not for the upper 2%, adding unemployment insurance. so essentially there's a stymie, a blockade by republicans who really don't want anything to happen that relates to tax rates. >> sir, you said you're disappointed. the huffington post is out where this new piece on product activity. we always hear the phrase the do-nothing congress, referring back to the 1940s, but side by side, 219 bills have been signed during this latest legislative body, and the 104th had 333 bills signed, so they are the do-nothing congress getting a bad rap comparatively. are the american people just supposed to sit by and expect this? because that's the way it is, the american people's hands are hogtied to whatever you guys want to do and whether you can get your act together. >> i don't think the american people should be silent. for example, on unemployment insurance, we've talked to people who will
in the senate, i heard senator mcconnell that the november election -- that isn't true. the president was out there clearly saying there should be a continuation of the middle-class tax cuts, but not for the upper 2%, adding unemployment insurance. so essentially there's a stymie, a blockade by republicans who really don't want anything to happen that relates to tax rates. >> sir, you said you're disappointed. the huffington post is out where this new piece on product activity. we always...
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will it be conservative enough to elect ken kutch anele. speaking of the campaign, if you're thinking of working on hillary's presidential campaign, you're supposed to send your resumf to terry mccullough. in new jersey, where the governor's race is all about one man, chris christie and 2016. he hopes to scare off any serious democratic competition while building a platform for future political success. both his run for a second term and his presidential ambitions will be shaped on how he managed hurricane sandy's recovery effort. will christie who famously declared now is not my time in december, make a presidential bid. watch the garden state if clues. he believes the biggest mistake romney made in 2006 was not trying to seek a second term in massachusetts. trying to avoid that. they believe their best shot at becoming the nominee in 2016 is winning the re-election in new jersey in 2015. we have a gaggle of campaign junkies joining us. stephanie madden, plus crystal, and perry bacon. they'll all be here next. we made a list, checked it tw
will it be conservative enough to elect ken kutch anele. speaking of the campaign, if you're thinking of working on hillary's presidential campaign, you're supposed to send your resumf to terry mccullough. in new jersey, where the governor's race is all about one man, chris christie and 2016. he hopes to scare off any serious democratic competition while building a platform for future political success. both his run for a second term and his presidential ambitions will be shaped on how he...
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won the election. therefore the 2% tax is a fait accompli. did may not read the exit polls, "a"? but "b," even more importantly, you know, the people that are giving them a hard time were duly elected, as well. honestly, what a bunch of knuckleheads. >> i know but you wonder why nothing's been done, because all they had to do was wait for january 1st. i'm going to play the geithner tape again when he sort of, you know, it kind of slipped where he said oh, yeah, we're ready to go. we're so ready to go over, and then they get -- >> no, he didn't slip. you know, somebody pulled the string and he said it. >> all right. coming up, is it too late to avoid the fiscal cliff or is there still hope for this 11th hour deal? we're going to ask democratic congressman jim mcdermott. >> are you suffering from market fatigue? do you feel confused and out of touch with today's markets? you may be suffering from a serious condition known as information deficit disorder. >> and it may be related to an imbalance of natura
won the election. therefore the 2% tax is a fait accompli. did may not read the exit polls, "a"? but "b," even more importantly, you know, the people that are giving them a hard time were duly elected, as well. honestly, what a bunch of knuckleheads. >> i know but you wonder why nothing's been done, because all they had to do was wait for january 1st. i'm going to play the geithner tape again when he sort of, you know, it kind of slipped where he said oh, yeah, we're...
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he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word.i. . >>> right now on first look -- d-day for president obama and congressional leaders. automatic tax cuts and smaller paychecks hang in the balance. american military hero, four-star general known as stormin' norman schwarzkopf has died. >>> a fiscal milk cliff is looming. bears over the bruins in the holiday bowl. >>> good morning, even as the finger pointing continues on capitol hill this morning, new hope on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal t
he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word.i. . >>> right now on first look -- d-day for president obama and congressional leaders. automatic tax cuts and smaller paychecks hang...
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they were elected to get the fiscal house in order. now is the time for republicans to stand up for your kids and grandchildren. maybe she the should say they're looking out for the future, future generations maybe now is the time to take a stabbed stand and say they're not going let washington continue with this out of control spending, debt, maybe now, at this moment, maybe that is the right thing to do. and joining me now with reaction to this developing story are two house republicans, congressman louie gomert. welcome back to "hannity". >> good to be with you. >> sean, i can -- . >> sean: go ahead. >> i can sympathize that he can not imagine our consciences in the house because you'd have to have one to aimagine ours. and he's shown repeatedly, over three years of no budget? come on. jm%lx >>> and first through on december 31. up, hairy reid saying it's time to cut spending not for now, but future generations who arere"Ñde one that's have to pay this off? >> it seems tozc)Ñ my, congressn gomer this has been the bush tax cuts ha
they were elected to get the fiscal house in order. now is the time for republicans to stand up for your kids and grandchildren. maybe she the should say they're looking out for the future, future generations maybe now is the time to take a stabbed stand and say they're not going let washington continue with this out of control spending, debt, maybe now, at this moment, maybe that is the right thing to do. and joining me now with reaction to this developing story are two house republicans,...
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he got re-elected. so they figure why not go over the cliff, blame republicans, not let the senate pass anything, we get away with it again. >> all right. here's, then, the quandary, the morale dilemma, congressman huelskamp. for the republicans, it was interesting when speaker boehner brought up plan b and in the house they said we aren't going to go along with it. we made a promise not to raise taxes and address the spending issues. in principle pell it's the right thing. now it will come back at some point, will the republicans hold the line on the principles that they ran on or do you expect that maybe many of them will cave? could me i think the american people would like principled leadership. does that exist? >> i think it does. the house acted. we acted on august is 11th and last week we rejected a proposal from our leadership that would have gone where the president wants to go and raise taxes on certain -- certain folks. but we have acted. the senate has not acted. they haven't acted for 1,337
he got re-elected. so they figure why not go over the cliff, blame republicans, not let the senate pass anything, we get away with it again. >> all right. here's, then, the quandary, the morale dilemma, congressman huelskamp. for the republicans, it was interesting when speaker boehner brought up plan b and in the house they said we aren't going to go along with it. we made a promise not to raise taxes and address the spending issues. in principle pell it's the right thing. now it will...
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and i think the 2012 election shows i. we have this remnant, these tea party people who held onto 2012. by the i want, the democrats made gains for the house and i'm talking about the extremists who used to have a more reasonable approachment and it was because of the congressional merriment. we have bad luck. the best republican year happened to be 2010, which was the year that the governors and the legislatures elected did congressional redistricting. they said the democrats would is picked up more seats, maybe six more. we wouldn't have controlled the house, but it would have been a significant increase. i think the american public has made it clear that they do not agree with the republican right wing. they don't want social security and medicare to be taken about. they're not hung up on other people's private lives and emotional lives and they're supporting the people with the same sex right to marry. now on gun control, they're on the wrong side. so i am optimistic that we are going to see the elections of 2012. i th
and i think the 2012 election shows i. we have this remnant, these tea party people who held onto 2012. by the i want, the democrats made gains for the house and i'm talking about the extremists who used to have a more reasonable approachment and it was because of the congressional merriment. we have bad luck. the best republican year happened to be 2010, which was the year that the governors and the legislatures elected did congressional redistricting. they said the democrats would is picked...
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do you think there is any worry that he may not be elected speaker on the first ballot come that election at the beginning of the year? >> there is no worry. he had the complete support of everybody for plan b and has the support for speakership for most of the members that were opposed. this was a debate and discussion and not over his leadership. honestly not for two years, but for four. >> four more years for john boehner. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> house democrats have spent the past two years on the sidelines of major policy decisions. if a fiscal cliff vote happened before january 1st, you could have a major influence on the nation's economic future. democratic congressman john yarmouth served and a lonely planet and ranked the number one city in america. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank, luke. come any time. >> i will ask you, are you surprised that you are in washington, d.c. today or you are not in washington, d.c. today and do you have plans on traveling back? >> i'm very surprise and no, i'm not going to come back unless there is a reason to. we have a big bask
do you think there is any worry that he may not be elected speaker on the first ballot come that election at the beginning of the year? >> there is no worry. he had the complete support of everybody for plan b and has the support for speakership for most of the members that were opposed. this was a debate and discussion and not over his leadership. honestly not for two years, but for four. >> four more years for john boehner. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> house...
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, you begin running for re-election immediately. >> yes. and not only that, in the senate, the key thing here is that mitch mcconnell needs to be a player because john boehner has kept tized him to do this, he's up for re-election in 2014. he has to consider that prospect as well. >> depply doug. >>> coming up, kurt andersen will be here. also, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and nbc white house correspondent, chuck todd. also, the lives they live. this sunday's "new york times" magazine profiles the memorable people and in some cases places that we lost in 2012. john kelly joins us for a look back at those who passed. >>> up next, mike allen with the "politico playbook." first is dylan drier tracking the winter storm. >> this storm is a big one. it affected the whole eastern third of the country for several days right through that all-important holiday for travelers. that certainly did wreak havoc on the airports. we ended up with more than a foot of snow in some areas, especially back into ohio, pennsylvania and new york state. gra
, you begin running for re-election immediately. >> yes. and not only that, in the senate, the key thing here is that mitch mcconnell needs to be a player because john boehner has kept tized him to do this, he's up for re-election in 2014. he has to consider that prospect as well. >> depply doug. >>> coming up, kurt andersen will be here. also, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and nbc white house correspondent, chuck todd. also, the lives they live. this...
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in the midterm elections, the democratic retaking control of the united states senate. so the chairman of the judiciary committee was no longer strom thurmond, but was instead a young senator from delaware named joseph haydn. eitan engineered bork's record and to his credit, perhaps to his regret engaged senators and discussions of how he felt about the issues and it became clear he got the civil rights act was a monstrous thing an individual choice beauty that there is no such thing as a right to privacy and the senate by a vote of 582942 site to conservatives than he was voted down an ronald reagan nominated instead to anthony kennedy, who certainly no liberal, but no robert work either and he has had a long and distinguished career as now the swing vote on the court. and that's sad, that really set the rehnquist years at the court, which i've read about in my last book. when i started looking at this court any serious way way as a writer, i was inspired by your book familiar to many of you called the criterion by scott armstrong and bob woodward, really a great book
in the midterm elections, the democratic retaking control of the united states senate. so the chairman of the judiciary committee was no longer strom thurmond, but was instead a young senator from delaware named joseph haydn. eitan engineered bork's record and to his credit, perhaps to his regret engaged senators and discussions of how he felt about the issues and it became clear he got the civil rights act was a monstrous thing an individual choice beauty that there is no such thing as a right...